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So...what did everyone think

BBC4 are broadcasting a documentary drama about the lives of Wilfred and Harry. What do you think ? Please let us have any comments about this programme

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Postby bob » Sat Mar 13, 2010 6:23 pm

Fantastic post the Worzel Gummage line made me laugh out loud !!

It was a phone conversation and I didn't mention it at the time becuase she had told me she was writting a book about her Dad so I kept quite and then Ron gets it as an exclusive on his website.

The Cheeky Little Bleeders.

Yes I can always see the family resemblance with Susannah. As an Asside I think the earlies thing I can remember her in was Kevin Costner's Robin Hood Prince of Theves. Shes only in it for a moment.
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Postby PhilGlass » Sat Mar 13, 2010 6:39 pm

Bob

That really is cheeky of them!!! Feels like you were screwed over a little... I'll look out for it on there and give it the thumbs down lol

I am composing a page for my Harry / Wilf site about the relationship. You summed it up nicely when you said about socialising at work.

Just because they weren't best freinds doesn't mean they didnt like each other. I recently looked up some old newspaper reports from Harry's death and one of them has Wilfrid talking about the last time he saw Harry and having a personal chat about Harry's heartattack and H saying something like 'Ill never be the same man again'. If you hate someone as much as people claim they did, wouldn't have have just told him to bugger off??

Grr I hate this program!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The Curse of The BBC it should be called!!!!! Grrr!!!!!!!!!
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Postby callous_little_bleeder » Sun Mar 14, 2010 8:52 am

bob wrote:Yes I can always see the family resemblance with Susannah. As an Asside I think the earlies thing I can remember her in was Kevin Costner's Robin Hood Prince of Theves. Shes only in it for a moment.

I saw her on Dalziel and Pascoe a few times (not a fan of the show) and was totally shellshocked at the likeness.

PhilGlass wrote:That really is cheeky of them!!! Feels like you were screwed over a little... I'll look out for it on there and give it the thumbs down lol

Awww, we all do a little ripping off in the scheme of things, Phil. It can't be helped. Check my homepage link for details. I'm guilty of robbing a few things. :wink:

But there's no excuse for not acknowledging or linking the source.

PhilGlass wrote:I recently looked up some old newspaper reports from Harry's death and one of them has Wilfrid talking about the last time he saw Harry and having a personal chat about Harry's heartattack and H saying something like 'Ill never be the same man again'. If you hate someone as much as people claim they did, wouldn't have have just told him to bugger off?

Exactly, the drama was a steaming pile technically. I enjoyed it though but was quite pee'd off that the BBC decided to play it way off the line.
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Postby PhilGlass » Sun Mar 14, 2010 1:40 pm

Maybe we should start a rumour that Jason Isaacs and Phil Davis hated each other off screen, see what happens... ha ha ha

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Postby winstonlegthigh » Wed Sep 14, 2011 3:43 pm

i think it's quite weird how on the one hand they seem to be saying that Harry was the sort of chaotic, new age, method actor and Wilfred was more of the classical Olivier-esque actor and yet then goes onto say how Harry was really aggravated by Wilfreds incapability to stick to the script cuz he was drunk all the time, it's actually quite contradictory.

I've always thought Wilfreds way of sort of, stumbling over words (which he doesn't do regularly but there are instances of it in Steptoe & Son i.e. if you watch the episode Divided We Stand and they are talking about the writing on the bog walls Albert goes "thats the customers, that is, they should never have been allowed to loo/use it, that should be for staff only, that should be" pointing out the stumble at the word 'use'. it sounds petty but this is a recorded pre-rehearsed medium, very little in it is incidental or accidental) are totally at odds with the idea of him being totally outside of "THE METHOD" and producing a pure thespian thing as opposed to a brooding twitchy Brando-esque performance.

A lot of actors function on drink, Oliver Reed certainly did, Richard Burton, Richard Harris etc and it'd suit the Brambell character and furthermore, would suit Harry's whole method acting bit because Method Actors thrive on the notion of using the script as a sort of guideline and propelling the role by certain naturalistic behavioural traits.

It's weird how on the one hand they try and make it to be a sort of old guard vs new guard conflict between classical acting and method acting and on the other hand insinuate that it was Harrys frustration that Wilfred wasn't always 100% on point in terms of the script, it's a contradiction.

To better illustrate the difference between Classical and Method acting, there's the story of when Laurence Olivier and Dustin Hoffman were doing the movie Marathon Man and Dustin put himself through all manner of stresses including not sleeping for many nights and generally making a mess of himself which Olivier, being from the old classical guard of acting pointed out to Dustin that "it's called acting, dear boy" :lol:
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Re: So...what did everyone think

Postby Ivor Biggun » Mon Jun 18, 2012 5:00 pm

Just throwing in my 2p and saying I hated this. When Steptoe Met Son was marginally better, but still not good enough for me to watch a second time, much less want to buy it (not that I can buy any Steptoe and Son in my DVD region, since it's not sold where I live).
I thought we'd nick a wreath off one of the graves as we went in.
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