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Charles Hawtrey in drag

Postby Ivor Biggun » Sun Mar 29, 2015 7:11 pm

A performance worthy of Patrick Fyffe. :mrgreen:
Our House, ATV 1960-62
This series also featured Carry On regulars Hattie Jacques, Bernard Bresslaw and Joan Sims.
Only 3 episodes still survive. The rest were wiped. Why didn't anyone archive their master tapes in the 60's?
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Re: Charles Hawtrey in drag

Postby Dirty Old Yank » Mon Mar 30, 2015 2:19 pm

If you're fond of drag Ivor, you might enjoy the Swedish comedy, "Picassos Aventyr" (1978).
Perfectly cast are Wilfrid as Alice B. Toklas, and Bernie Cribbins as Gertrude Stein.
Their resemblance to that famous literary pair is hilariously startling! :o
And cheers Phil for recommending the movie :wink:.
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Re: Charles Hawtrey in drag

Postby Ivor Biggun » Mon Mar 30, 2015 7:05 pm

Not especially fond of it, but when it's done well it can be funny. Drag performers over there are different than they are here. Drag performers here go out of their way to be either extremely effeminate (to an unbelievable degree) or extremely offensive. It's not the same thing. When you can see a man walk on stage in women's attire, displaying all the mannerisms of a woman, and speaking with a woman's voice and not suspect that he is anything other than a woman, then he's doing it right. What we get here are nothing more than flaming queens in dresses with way too much makeup that either giggle like little girls or swear like sailors and most are like watching a trainwreck. You're horrified, but can't seem to look away.
I also found this short video starring Terry Scott preparing for a pantomime performance a while ago that was interesting.
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Re: Charles Hawtrey in drag

Postby Dirty Old Yank » Mon Mar 30, 2015 7:22 pm

Ivor Biggun wrote:Not especially fond of it, but when it's done well it can be funny. Drag performers over there are different than they are here. Drag performers here go out of their way to be either extremely effeminate (to an unbelievable degree) or extremely offensive. It's not the same thing. When you can see a man walk on stage in women's attire, displaying all the mannerisms of a woman, and speaking with a woman's voice and not suspect that he is anything other than a woman, then he's doing it right. What we get here are nothing more than flaming queens in dresses with way too much makeup that either giggle like little girls or swear like sailors and most are like watching a trainwreck. You're horrified, but can't seem to look away.

http://www.albertandharold.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=609 :)
"...Over there"?
What about drag performers down under? Barry Humphries for example.
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Re: Charles Hawtrey in drag

Postby Dirty Old Yank » Tue Mar 31, 2015 4:24 am

Ivor Biggun wrote:Did you see this yet? Carry On Darkly....

"Carry On Darkly"...
Nope.....haven’t seen it.
Haven’t seen “The Curse of Steptoe” either, and never will.
Like a continental karsi, they’re something one doesn’t do, unless you have to.
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Re: Charles Hawtrey in drag

Postby Ivor Biggun » Tue Mar 31, 2015 1:29 pm

Are you afraid your illusions will be shattered? :mrgreen:
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Re: Charles Hawtrey in drag

Postby Dirty Old Yank » Tue Mar 31, 2015 2:53 pm

Ivor Biggun wrote:Are you afraid your illusions will be shattered? :mrgreen:

I have no illusions about continental karsi’s, but imagine Albert and Harold’s surprise had they not been chucked out of France (Pilgrims Progress). If they didn’t know what a bidet is for (The Bath) and stare in awe at black porcelain (Without Prejudice).....then imagine their dismay when they discover they have to stand up :roll:.
"Shattered", then you're a Rolling Stones fan Ivor, like our Guv: bob.
Not a bad single actually, but as their later LP's go, Goats Head Soup was way better :wink:.
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Re: Charles Hawtrey in drag

Postby Ivor Biggun » Wed Apr 01, 2015 3:36 pm

I just noticed something. In that scene, is the costume Hawtrey is wearing the same one that he wore in Carry On Constable when he and Kenneth Williams went undercover in drag together?

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Watch the scene above and compare.
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