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When Paul Merton remade Hancock...

Postby PhilGlass » Tue Jun 24, 2008 10:58 am

Does anyone remember, I think it was the early 90's, when there was a series called 'Paul Merton in Galton and Simpson's.....' and each one was a remake of a Hancock episode??

Anyone know if this is on DVD I've been searching and can't find it. I want it purely for nostalgia as I remember my family and I enjoying the series very much.
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Postby thatsthatthen » Tue Jun 24, 2008 7:15 pm

Oh dear yes I remember this series only too well and hated every painful minute.
I'm with Michael Caine on this one: Why remake the good stuff? Why not remake the turkeys and put right what went wrong...

Anyway it's on DVD: £8.97 on Amazon.

Didn't Ant and Dec try to re-do the Likely Lads as well?
Why oh why oh why?

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Postby PhilGlass » Thu Jun 26, 2008 3:48 pm

To be honest I was a lil boy at the time so I hadnt seen the Hancock ones at that point, which is why I enjoyed them. Now I know better but its nice to have things for nostalgia. Thanks.
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Postby PhilGlass » Thu Jun 26, 2008 3:49 pm

Yeah ant and dec did and even worse, Reeves and Mortimer did Randall and Hopkirk... I assume they re-make stuff because the new stuff coming out is so crap!
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Postby Karl » Sun Jan 17, 2010 10:06 am

i tried watching Paul Merton in those shows but being a big Fan of Tony Hancock i too found 'em painful,i know Merton is a big admirer of G & S/Hancock and he was clearly doing the shows as a tribute,but great comedy cannot be redone or imitated.......................one offs!!! leave 'em alone.
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Re: When Paul Merton remade Hancock...

Postby HILTS3188 » Fri Jul 13, 2012 4:01 pm

well said karl, you should never mess with perfection :D

i have never been to the mathew street festival for the beatles (even though i live in the city), for the same reason it is like scratching nails down a ckalkboard whenever even the suggestion of a beatles tribute band. :x

interestingly steven speilberg was going to do a reissue of the korean film OLDBOY, but he scrapped the whole idea as he said you cant beat perfection

watch OLDBOY great great film :wink:
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Re: When Paul Merton remade Hancock...

Postby harryfaversham » Fri Jul 13, 2012 4:09 pm

Fingers crossed we NEVER see a Steptoe remake
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Re: When Paul Merton remade Hancock...

Postby PhilGlass » Fri Jul 13, 2012 4:18 pm

harryfaversham wrote:Fingers crossed we NEVER see a Steptoe remake


We saw it in 1981, it starred David Jason and Nicholas Lyndhurst lol
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Re: When Paul Merton remade Hancock...

Postby harryfaversham » Fri Jul 13, 2012 9:21 pm

hehe that was more of a parody
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Re: When Paul Merton remade Hancock...

Postby PhilGlass » Fri Jul 13, 2012 10:05 pm

I'm not sure OFAH is a parody... it is a wonderful series... but the characters and several storylines are lifted... but I think the characters also developed further than Albert and Harold did. I like OFAH, but we have been through this 100 times on this site.
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Re: When Paul Merton remade Hancock...

Postby harryfaversham » Fri Jul 13, 2012 10:14 pm

This may sound ridiculous but I liken Steptoe and OFAH to Lennon & McCartney. OFAH was great in the early days, as McCartney was with that 4-piece from Liverpool whose name escapes me rite now (joke before anybody hangs me for treason!!) but later on it just became too "safe" and commercial and relied on its name to bring in the punters. Much like like Macca's post-Beatles & Wings career. Don't get me wrong, he is one of the greatest composers to have lived (still a country mile behind Dylan :wink: ) but theres too much of a syrupy element to his songwriting. Steptoe on the other hand, like Lennon started off great and just carried on because of the raw, earthy talent that was imbued in every episode/song. Interesting dichotomy I know but its late, I'm tired and I've had more than a few Guinness's lol
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Re: When Paul Merton remade Hancock...

Postby Ivor Biggun » Wed Jul 18, 2012 1:55 pm

PhilGlass wrote:
harryfaversham wrote:Fingers crossed we NEVER see a Steptoe remake


We saw it in 1981, it starred David Jason and Nicholas Lyndhurst lol


I've never seen a connection between the two shows.
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Re: When Paul Merton remade Hancock...

Postby PhilGlass » Wed Jul 18, 2012 6:32 pm

There are various threads on here explaining it...

Some of the storylines and even some of the jokes are 100% lifted. John Sullivan said that Steptoe was his main influence, so it's only natural. The character occupations have nothing to do with it, several scenes are directly taken from Steptoe but given their own slant.
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Re: When Paul Merton remade Hancock...

Postby harryfaversham » Tue Jul 24, 2012 11:02 pm

OFAH has been way too overexposed unfortunately
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Re: When Paul Merton remade Hancock...

Postby stevefreestone » Wed Aug 08, 2012 5:12 pm

Ivor Biggun wrote:
PhilGlass wrote:
harryfaversham wrote:Fingers crossed we NEVER see a Steptoe remake


We saw it in 1981, it starred David Jason and Nicholas Lyndhurst lol


I've never seen a connection between the two shows.


Hi all, I'm new here, just thought I'd register just to respond.

There's a lot of similarities to *early* OFAH and Steptoe.

- We have the two 'idealists' in Rodney and Del, whilst the grounded 'realist' one is Grandad

- Which follows to generation gap comedy, but followed in almost three generations. Yes Rodney and Del are brothers, but there is a huge age gap between them, so Del is effectively the father figure, hence the three generations.

- Obviously Steptoe is about scrap merchanting, whilst Only Fools is about getting 'knock offs' to sell down the market. There is a huge working class structure to both series.

I'm currently writing a book on situation comedy which is being aimed at GCSE/A Level Media Studies students. I've been delving into this quite a lot in the book, although how much will get through I don't know. :)
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