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Is TV too PC?

Yes, is up to us to choose what we watch
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No, leave such prehistoric viewpoints where they belong
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Too 'Un-PC' these days?

Postby Jojo » Fri Sep 12, 2008 7:07 pm

It's been ages since I've seen a repeated episode of Steptoe & Son on TV. With Albert's viewpoint on ethnic minorities & the gay community being mentioned quite a lot in a number of episodes, are the BBC now too scared to show this masterpiece?

Other classic sitcoms have suffered too; It Ain't Half Hot Mum' & ' Till Death Us Do Part' being two examples of fine comedy shows being shunned away for today's "modern" audiences.

I think this is a crying shame. It's our history, our heritage and our cherished memories that are being sidelined here.

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Postby bluejon » Fri Sep 12, 2008 8:31 pm

Agree jojo,what some people don't understand imo,is that with Alf Garrnet,Rigsby,and maybe Albert,is that we are laughing AT them not WITH them!
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Postby rose » Sun Feb 22, 2009 9:42 pm

I'm in agreement. At the end of the day, if people don't like it, they know where the off button is, or the remote to watch something that is better suited to their tastes.
The BBC are going too far with trying not to offend anyone. I've lost count how many celebs have been forced to apologize for their own basic view-points. Even our own royal family are getting criticism. I think PC is going far too far. I thought all humans are supposed to have freedom of speech?
The reason these old comedies are funny, is because of their out-dated views, at the end of the day, they didn't know any better, and its sort of interesting, to know how people reacted to things that these days, are socially acceptable. It's a type of history in a way, social history.
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Postby THE VICAR » Sun Feb 22, 2009 11:02 pm

"ive been watching man about the house and george and mildred on parmmount todaythey have cut them to pieces ive got them on dvd and i can spot the cuts only fools is cut on dvd aswell so not worth buying after whats been done to the steptoe christmas shows wich makes me mad the vicar
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Postby Karl » Fri Feb 12, 2010 7:20 am

I've given up watching classic comedy on G.O.L.D. and the like,
Steptoe & son is rarely on and when it is the ad breaks are a pain,the edits are ridiculous.I have a lot of the classics so,the DVD player is on more than the TV channels.........................
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Postby callous_little_bleeder » Fri Mar 12, 2010 2:23 am

I have an Indian friend who absolutely loves Steptoe & Son, and laughs along when Albert starts on the ethnic minorities. I asked him once if it bothered him; he said that he completely understands how it was back in the day and wouldn't have the show any other way. He is also a huge Alf Garnett fan.
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Postby PhilGlass » Wed Mar 17, 2010 2:28 pm

I have recently discovered (well, it was always there I mean it's new to me!) an interview in one of the old society magazines where WILFRID talks about the swearing used in Steptoe and Son.. I think he sums it up nicely.

I just thought it would be interesting as it is Wilfrid's own words, I think from 1964 or 65 (Today magazine)...

"There are some people who think that it's not only the junk yard and the clothes that are dirty. They don't approve of the language we use. In particular they dislike the words 'bloody, git, and bleeding bastard.' I absolutely defend our use of them and say three cheers for Auntie BBC...

...I believe that swear words, any of the words we use, are only improper if they are used out of context. If you are honest you have to admit that Steptoe and Son would use the words as part of their every day language....

... In fact, it is quite surprising how few complaints we get about the language. But there are occasions when people can turn quite nasty. I nearly had a punch up with a man at the Savoy Luncheon the other day over this very point. He kept on needling me about the language. Finally I said 'What bleeding language?'. He said: 'You know what I mean'. I shot back 'Do I? You didn't even notice I said bleeding!'..."

I just thought that was an interesting little quote and I echo his sentiments over the show and the use of the language.
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Postby bob » Thu Mar 18, 2010 10:30 am

Thanks PHil

It nice to have Willy in his own words somewhee on the site
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Postby steve sheffield » Fri Mar 26, 2010 7:56 pm

Was watching uk gold either wed or thurs this week around lunch time.
The episode that was on was porn yesterday.
To my horror they had edited it.
When Harold says near the end " They'll be no bleeding pheonix rising from these ashes" Albert then shoves two fingers up at Harold. They totally cut straight to the next scene and missed Albert giving Harold the V sign. Talk about nanny state and PC.
I mean, how many people all over the UK are gonna complain about Albert giving the V sign. Where will it end? Unbelievable!
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Postby bob » Sun Mar 28, 2010 6:38 am

The world is going mad.

I was watching a comedy documentary (a documentary about comedy !!) the other day and the various reviewers were saying that comedy is normally at its funniest when it reflects real life.

We won't get that anymore in any new comedy or TV drama.

I never watched "The Bill" but I bet one of the reasons it lost viewers is that it must have been getting more unreal as time went by. I can just imagine some fast car chase and a couple of scouser thugs (they always are !) get caught. As the the chasing cops grab them and smash them onto the car bonnet, the lead cop shouts "Right, you're blinking well nicked, you liverpudlian rotters".!!
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Postby PhilGlass » Sun Apr 04, 2010 12:29 pm

Well said Bob, I think that sums it up!!

I recently watched the original Mr Bean movie on TV and they cut out the part where the biker gives him the finger, but then left in the scene where Bean is giving everyone else the finger - so that made no sense.

When will the broadcasters ever understand?

I accept that during the day they might not want to show certain things, so don't show them, but dont show them and cut them. Just do your job properly broadcasters and put it on in a suitable time slot.

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Postby steve sheffield » Sun May 09, 2010 10:36 am

Uk gold are at it again.
Just watching "And so to bed" as I type.
They have cut out Albert saying " He's a poof!" Just as they leave the Bayswater bedarama. Get a grip whoever is doing the editing. It's getting beyond a joke.
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Postby Karl » Mon May 10, 2010 6:17 am

steve sheffield wrote:Uk gold are at it again.
Just watching "And so to bed" as I type.
They have cut out Albert saying " He's a poof!" Just as they leave the Bayswater bedarama. Get a grip whoever is doing the editing. It's getting beyond a joke.


its a total waste of time broadcasting Classics like this if they are gonna cut 'em about!! i'll stick to watching the videos/Dvd's i think....... :x :x
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Postby PhilGlass » Mon May 10, 2010 6:57 pm

Karl

Even the DVD's have edits compared to some of the original broadcasts.

I am currently listening to the BBC7 playing of 'The Bath' from the radio series. They started with a warning that it includes 'Outdated views towards race and women'.... have I missed something??????????
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Postby steve sheffield » Fri May 14, 2010 9:40 pm

It's alright for the likes of Eastender's to show two men kissing before 9pm ( each to their own) but if a classic sitcom mention's a WORD that may upset some minority then heaven forbid. Pisses me right off. PC Gone f'mad.

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