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Steptoe Family Tree?

Postby harryfaversham » Mon Jun 18, 2012 2:04 pm

Having watched "Oh, What A Beautiful Mourning" last night it got me thinking. What are the names of Albert's brothers and sisters? He claimed to be one of 14 but only a certain amount were mentioned throughout the series. Can anybody name them all or are only a few of them actually named?
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Re: Steptoe Family Tree?

Postby Ivor Biggun » Mon Jun 18, 2012 5:40 pm

In Those Magnificent Men and their Heating Machines he mentioned there were 10 of them which was why his father had the upstairs bedroom divided in two. I don't think we'll ever know the answer since the show is full of inconsistencies. In Live Now, PAYE Later, Albert's wife is named Gladys but in Seance in a Wet Rag and Bone Yard she is called Emily.
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Re: Steptoe Family Tree?

Postby harryfaversham » Tue Jun 19, 2012 12:44 pm

Very true. It would be great to pick Ray and Alan's brains and find out if they ever had a full list of family names. We can dream I suppose.
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Re: Steptoe Family Tree?

Postby PhilGlass » Tue Jun 19, 2012 3:29 pm

Ivor Biggun wrote: In Live Now, PAYE Later, Albert's wife is named Gladys but in Seance in a Wet Rag and Bone Yard she is called Emily.


No, that's deliberate - in "Live Now, P.A.Y.E. Later", Albert has completely made her up for the meaning of defrauding the tax man. It doesn't imply that his actual wife's name was Gladys, just the fake person he has created for the show.

I guess if anyone had between 9-13 siblings you might forget the odd one or two!!
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Re: Steptoe Family Tree?

Postby Ivor Biggun » Fri Jun 22, 2012 5:34 pm

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Ivor Biggun wrote: In Live Now, PAYE Later, Albert's wife is named Gladys but in Seance in a Wet Rag and Bone Yard she is called Emily.


No, that's deliberate - in "Live Now, P.A.Y.E. Later", Albert has completely made her up for the meaning of defrauding the tax man. It doesn't imply that his actual wife's name was Gladys, just the fake person he has created for the show.

I guess if anyone had between 9-13 siblings you might forget the odd one or two!!


That isn't right because he said that he forgot to stop declaring her the first year after she died but because nobody caught it, he kept claiming her ever since, so he was claiming for her under the name of Gladys even when she was still living. The Inland Revenue would also have had the means of verifying her identity before handing over a cheque for 1100 pounds so making up a name would not have worked.
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Re: Steptoe Family Tree?

Postby PhilGlass » Fri Jun 22, 2012 6:51 pm

Ivor Biggun wrote:
PhilGlass wrote:
Ivor Biggun wrote: In Live Now, PAYE Later, Albert's wife is named Gladys but in Seance in a Wet Rag and Bone Yard she is called Emily.


No, that's deliberate - in "Live Now, P.A.Y.E. Later", Albert has completely made her up for the meaning of defrauding the tax man. It doesn't imply that his actual wife's name was Gladys, just the fake person he has created for the show.



He made up the name Muriel and that worked...

However, you are right. Your theory seems correct about the wife because, as you say, he was already claiming while she was alive. I had forgotten that detail.
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Re: Steptoe Family Tree?

Postby harryfaversham » Fri Jun 22, 2012 10:00 pm

Seems Ray and Alan got themselves in a bit of a muckin' fuddle
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Re: Steptoe Family Tree?

Postby PhilGlass » Fri Jun 22, 2012 10:14 pm

Not really. Noone cared in those days. Without video tape audiences wouldn't remember little details from years ago. Only now can we watch say a series 1 followed by a series 7. Not then, and also it was irrelevant to the writers as no one was bothered.
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Re: Steptoe Family Tree?

Postby harryfaversham » Fri Jun 22, 2012 10:17 pm

I always thought Ray and Alan were sticklers for continuity
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