Ivor Biggun wrote:Like I said, maybe whichever one it was had a grudge against them for some reason, whether the perceived offense was real or imaginary I'm not qualified to say. I especially wouldn't put it past Kenneth Williams to hold grudges. He disliked a lot of people according to his diaries. Hawtrey was borderline certifiable in his final years due to all the drinking (and probably quite a few illicit drugs as well) and could be somewhat astringent when he spoke. If he had something to say, he said it unfiltered and didn't care what anyone thought. The always cheery and light personality that he showed in the films was gone by then. They both had serious issues that eventually caught up with them.
Ivor, if you examine my posts a little more closely, you'll discover I wasn’t arguing the point, merely hoped to change tack, be a little more upbeat. Welcome back by the way, haven’t seen you in quite a while. I think it’s important to bear in mind that everybody has “issues”, some are more adept than others at hiding them, but human beings are flawed, to deny it would be absurd. Speculating here, but key to understanding Williams and Hawtrey might be that they both grew up in a society where homosexuality meant prison, ostracization and the end of a career. And if you’ve read Williams’ diaries, then you know he grew up in an atmosphere of strict religious discipline. I’m not a religious person per se, nevertheless I believe it’s ill advised to speak ill of the dead, especially brilliant comic actors. May as well criticize W. C. Fields for being a boozer and hating children, both true apparently, but ye Gods was he funny!!
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